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Verlier im FL HE nur! - 23-10-2007, 22:43
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Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 112
Bin ich zu blöd zum FL spielen oder hab ich nur kein Glück?
Das ist jetzt der fünfte versuch ein Paar cent zu meinem Bankroll dazu zugewinnen im FL immer ein ähnlicher Verlauf wie unten und 0,30 $ weg .
Ist etwas länger will euch die gewonnenen Hände nicht verschweigen die manchmal schlecht warn.
Schaut mal auf danemann der hat Glück in Dosen glaub ich, wenn er was braucht macht er eine auf!

Die Verlorenen!

PokerStars Game #12801833036: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 15:43:28 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.19 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($1.67 in chips)
Seat 5: von dykus ($1.92 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.58 in chips)
Seat 9: redmitchell ($1.39 in chips)
billy1852: posts small blind $0.01
von dykus: posts big blind $0.02
harold1442: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [Jd Ah]
harold1442: checks
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.04
redmitchell: folds
danemann84: calls $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.03
von dykus: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [8s 6c Ac]
billy1852: checks
von dykus: checks
harold1442: checks
braxfan: bets $0.02
danemann84: raises $0.02 to $0.04
billy1852: folds
von dykus: folds
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [8s 6c Ac] [4d]
harold1442: checks
braxfan: bets $0.04
danemann84: raises $0.04 to $0.08
harold1442: calls $0.08
braxfan: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [8s 6c Ac 4d] [Th]
harold1442: checks
braxfan: bets $0.04
danemann84: raises $0.04 to $0.08
harold1442: folds
braxfan: calls $0.04
*** SHOW DOWN ***
danemann84: shows [Ts Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
braxfan: mucks hand
danemann84 collected $0.69 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.72 | Rake $0.03
Board [8s 6c Ac 4d Th]
Seat 3: danemann84 (button) showed [Ts Td] and won ($0.69) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 4: billy1852 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: von dykus (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: harold1442 folded on the River
Seat 7: braxfan mucked [Jd Ah]
Seat 9: redmitchell folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #12801876840: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 15:45:46 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.20 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.58 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($1.63 in chips)
Seat 5: von dykus ($1.84 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($0.87 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.34 in chips)
Seat 9: redmitchell ($1.25 in chips)
harold1442: posts small blind $0.01
braxfan: posts big blind $0.02
apo1234: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [6d 7d]
redmitchell: calls $0.02
apo1234: checks
danemann84: calls $0.02
billy1852: calls $0.02
von dykus: folds
harold1442: calls $0.01
braxfan: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c As 8d]
harold1442: checks
braxfan: checks
redmitchell: checks
apo1234: checks
danemann84: bets $0.02
billy1852: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: calls $0.02
redmitchell: calls $0.02
apo1234: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [5c As 8d] [Qc]
harold1442: checks
braxfan: checks
redmitchell: checks
apo1234: checks
danemann84: bets $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.04
redmitchell: calls $0.04
apo1234: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [5c As 8d Qc] [4c]
GAGESLAYER joins the table at seat #8
harold1442 has timed out while being disconnected
harold1442 is being treated as all-in
braxfan: bets $0.04
redmitchell: calls $0.04
apo1234: folds
danemann84: raises $0.04 to $0.08
billy1852: calls $0.08
braxfan: calls $0.04
redmitchell: calls $0.04
*** SHOW DOWN ***
danemann84: shows [Ac 3c] (a flush, Ace high)
billy1852: mucks hand
braxfan: mucks hand
PlexxOne joins the table at seat #10
redmitchell: mucks hand
danemann84 collected $0.31 from side pot
harold1442: mucks hand
harold1442 is sitting out
danemann84 collected $0.46 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.80 Main pot $0.46. Side pot $0.31. | Rake $0.03
Board [5c As 8d Qc 4c]
Seat 1: apo1234 folded on the River
Seat 3: danemann84 showed [Ac 3c] and won ($0.77) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: billy1852 mucked [Jh Ad]
Seat 5: von dykus (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: harold1442 (small blind) mucked [4d 2d]
Seat 7: braxfan (big blind) mucked [6d 7d]
Seat 9: redmitchell mucked [Ah 4s]

PokerStars Game #12802240875: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 16:04:46 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.71 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.45 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($2.26 in chips)
Seat 5: ramset69 ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($0.92 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Hamshire ($0.84 in chips)
Hamshire: posts small blind $0.01
apo1234: posts big blind $0.02
ramset69: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [Jh Kh]
danemann84: calls $0.02
marcootje01 joins the table at seat #10
billy1852: folds
ramset69: checks
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: calls $0.02
Hamshire: folds
apo1234: checks
*** FLOP *** [3s Js 9c]
apo1234: checks
danemann84: bets $0.02
ramset69: folds
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.04
apo1234: calls $0.04
danemann84: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [3s Js 9c] [7d]
apo1234: checks
danemann84: bets $0.04
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.04
apo1234: folds
*** RIVER *** [3s Js 9c 7d] [Qd]
Junior71930 joins the table at seat #2
danemann84: bets $0.04
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.04
Mr DanMan joins the table at seat #9
*** SHOW DOWN ***
danemann84: shows [Td Kc] (a straight, Nine to King)
harold1442: mucks hand
braxfan: mucks hand
danemann84 collected $0.49 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.51 | Rake $0.02
Board [3s Js 9c 7d Qd]
Seat 1: apo1234 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: danemann84 showed [Td Kc] and won ($0.49) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 4: billy1852 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ramset69 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: harold1442 mucked [5s 7s]
Seat 7: braxfan (button) mucked [Jh Kh]
Seat 8: Hamshire (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #12802129298: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 15:59:00 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.16 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.86 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($2.07 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($1.03 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.43 in chips)
Seat 8: Hamshire ($0.90 in chips)
Hamshire: posts small blind $0.01
apo1234: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [Ks Qs]
danemann84: calls $0.02
billy1852: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: calls $0.02
Hamshire: calls $0.01
apo1234: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c Kd 8c]
Hamshire: checks
apo1234: bets $0.02
danemann84: calls $0.02
billy1852: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.04
Hamshire: folds
apo1234: raises $0.02 to $0.06
danemann84: calls $0.04
billy1852: folds
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [9c Kd 8c] [7d]
apo1234: bets $0.04
danemann84: calls $0.04
harold1442: calls $0.04
braxfan: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [9c Kd 8c 7d] [8h]
apo1234: bets $0.04 and is all-in
danemann84: raises $0.04 to $0.08
harold1442: raises $0.04 to $0.12
braxfan: calls $0.12
danemann84: calls $0.04
*** SHOW DOWN ***
harold1442: shows [8d Qd] (three of a kind, Eights)
braxfan: mucks hand
danemann84: mucks hand
harold1442 collected $0.23 from side pot
apo1234: shows [Jh Td] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
apo1234 collected $0.67 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.94 Main pot $0.67. Side pot $0.23. | Rake $0.04
Board [9c Kd 8c 7d 8h]
Seat 1: apo1234 (big blind) showed [Jh Td] and won ($0.67) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 3: danemann84 mucked [6s Kc]
Seat 4: billy1852 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: harold1442 showed [8d Qd] and won ($0.23) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 7: braxfan (button) mucked [Ks Qs]
Seat 8: Hamshire (small blind) folded on the Flop

Letzte verlorene Frusthand: !

PokerStars Game #12802324597: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 16:09:05 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Junior71930 ($0.31 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($2.78 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($0.58 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.06 in chips)
Seat 8: Hamshire ($0.83 in chips)
Seat 9: Mr DanMan ($0.78 in chips)
danemann84: posts small blind $0.01
billy1852: posts big blind $0.02
PookeyDoo: sits out
marcootje01: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [Kc Qd]
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: calls $0.02
Hamshire: folds
Mr DanMan: calls $0.02
apo1234: folds
Junior71930: raises $0.02 to $0.04
apo1234 is sitting out
danemann84: calls $0.03
billy1852: calls $0.02
harold1442: calls $0.02
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.06 and is all-in
Mr DanMan: calls $0.04
Junior71930: raises $0.02 to $0.08
Betting is capped
danemann84: calls $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
harold1442: calls $0.04
Mr DanMan: calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [2s 8h 6s]
danemann84: checks
billy1852: checks
harold1442: checks
Mr DanMan: checks
Junior71930: checks
*** TURN *** [2s 8h 6s] [Th]
danemann84: bets $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
harold1442: folds
Mr DanMan: calls $0.04
Junior71930: folds
*** RIVER *** [2s 8h 6s Th] [Jc]
danemann84: bets $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
Mr DanMan: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
danemann84: shows [7h 8s] (a pair of Eights)
billy1852: mucks hand
danemann84 collected $0.28 from side pot
braxfan: mucks hand
danemann84 collected $0.35 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.66 Main pot $0.35. Side pot $0.28. | Rake $0.03
Board [2s 8h 6s Th Jc]
Seat 1: apo1234 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Junior71930 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: danemann84 (small blind) showed [7h 8s] and won ($0.63) with a pair of Eights
Seat 4: billy1852 (big blind) mucked [Ad 2d]
Seat 6: harold1442 folded on the Turn
Seat 7: braxfan mucked [Kc Qd]
Seat 8: Hamshire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Mr DanMan folded on the River

Nun die Gewonnenen!

PokerStars Game #12801631599: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 15:32:58 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: reymacar ($0.99 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($1.63 in chips)
Seat 6: valtl ($1.12 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.25 in chips)
braxfan: posts small blind $0.01
reymacar: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [6h Jh]
redmitchell has returned
billy1852: calls $0.02
valtl: folds
braxfan: calls $0.01
reymacar: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 6d 3s]
braxfan: bets $0.02
reymacar: calls $0.02
billy1852: raises $0.02 to $0.04
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.06
reymacar: calls $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [6c 6d 3s] [7d]
braxfan: bets $0.04
reymacar: calls $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [6c 6d 3s 7d] [Ad]
braxfan: bets $0.04
reymacar: calls $0.04
billy1852: calls $0.04
*** SHOW DOWN ***
braxfan: shows [6h Jh] (three of a kind, Sixes)
reymacar: mucks hand
billy1852: mucks hand
braxfan collected $0.46 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.48 | Rake $0.02
Board [6c 6d 3s 7d Ad]
Seat 2: reymacar (big blind) mucked [Th Tc]
Seat 4: billy1852 mucked [3d 2c]
Seat 6: valtl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: braxfan (small blind) showed [6h Jh] and won ($0.46) with three of a kind, Sixes

Hab versehentlich gecall mit 10 6 kommt vom Forumlesen und gleichzeitig Pokern

PokerStars Game #12802155105: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 16:00:20 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.67 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($1.02 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.19 in chips)
Seat 8: Hamshire ($0.88 in chips)
apo1234: posts small blind $0.01
danemann84: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [6h Th]
billy1852: folds
harold1442: folds
braxfan: calls $0.02
Hamshire: folds
apo1234: calls $0.01
danemann84: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh 3d Td]
apo1234: checks
danemann84: checks
braxfan: bets $0.02
apo1234: folds
danemann84: folds
braxfan collected $0.06 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.06 | Rake $0
Board [Jh 3d Td]
Seat 1: apo1234 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: danemann84 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: billy1852 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: harold1442 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: braxfan collected ($0.06)
Seat 8: Hamshire (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #12802002360: Hold'em Limit ($0.02/$0.04) - 2007/10/23 - 15:52:28 (ET)
Table 'Selene' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: apo1234 ($0.35 in chips)
Seat 3: danemann84 ($1.90 in chips)
Seat 4: billy1852 ($1.99 in chips)
Seat 6: harold1442 ($1.04 in chips)
Seat 7: braxfan ($0.18 in chips)
Seat 8: GAGESLAYER ($0.06 in chips)
Seat 10: PlexxOne ($0.79 in chips)
harold1442: posts small blind $0.01
braxfan: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to braxfan [As Qc]
GAGESLAYER: raises $0.02 to $0.04
PlexxOne: folds
PlexxOne is sitting out
apo1234: calls $0.04
danemann84: calls $0.04
PlexxOne leaves the table
billy1852: folds
harold1442: folds
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.06
GAGESLAYER: calls $0.02 and is all-in
apo1234: calls $0.02
danemann84: calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [8c Qs 5c]
braxfan: bets $0.02
apo1234: calls $0.02
danemann84: raises $0.02 to $0.04
braxfan: raises $0.02 to $0.06
apo1234: folds
danemann84: raises $0.02 to $0.08
Betting is capped
braxfan: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [8c Qs 5c] [6h]
braxfan: bets $0.04 and is all-in
danemann84: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [8c Qs 5c 6h] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
braxfan: shows [As Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
danemann84: mucks hand
braxfan collected $0.25 from side pot
GAGESLAYER: mucks hand
braxfan collected $0.24 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.51 Main pot $0.24. Side pot $0.25. | Rake $0.02
Board [8c Qs 5c 6h 8s]
Seat 1: apo1234 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: danemann84 mucked [3h 3c]
Seat 4: billy1852 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: harold1442 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: braxfan (big blind) showed [As Qc] and won ($0.49) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 8: GAGESLAYER mucked [4d Ac]
Seat 10: PlexxOne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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23-10-2007, 22:49
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Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 223
Das große Problem beim FL ist glaub ich, daß man viel schneller im Pot drin ist. Man wird halt verführt den Flop zu sehen, obwohl man eigentlich keine gute Starthand hat, da es meißtens billiger ist ih zu sehen als beim NL.
 
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23-10-2007, 22:54
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Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 82
Wenn Du keinen Handconverter benutzt, wird vermutlich niemand Lust haben sich das wirklich anzusehen.


PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , . UTG posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG (poster) checks, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) , , (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Ah (one pair, aces).
Button has Ts Td (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Button wins 18 BB.



Hier z.B. 3bet Flop for information & protection
 
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23-10-2007, 23:06
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Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 141
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Wenn man mit unter 1 Dollar an diese Tische geht, kommt man im Normalfall da nicht mehr mit Geld wieder weg. Geht man 2-3 Hände mit, ist man schon fast broke...
 
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23-10-2007, 23:08
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Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 2.831
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endlos posts sucken....
beim fl solltest Du geduldiger sein...
 
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23-10-2007, 23:11
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Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 112
Bei den verlorenen Händen warn die Starthände und Positionen meistens nicht mal zu schlecht oder das Outs - PotOdd verhältnis war ok siehe 76 die schwächste Hand die ich gespiel habe und auch nur weil ich den BB gecheckt hab, nach Flop 8:1 pot rund 6 :1 Outs nach turn 9:1 PotOdd rund 6:1 Outs und ich hab die Strait getroffen was mir eigentlich recht gibt zu callen wenn Danemann nicht gewesen wäre: .
 
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23-10-2007, 23:32
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Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 34
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Hab mir jetzt nur die ersten paar Hände angesehen, aber die waren doch ok gespielt. Beobachte doch mal, ob danneman oder wie der sich nennt in ein oder zwei Wochen immer noch da ist, wenn nämlich du inzwischen längst die paar verluste wieder ausgeglichen hast, während der immer noch nicht spielen kann. Geduld ist alles. Im FL treffen dich die bad beats auch bei weitem nicht so hart wie im NL (jedenfalls, wenn du da nicht SSS spielst). Außerdem ist bei 02/04 schlecht bluffen, und ohne das macht NL auch keinen Spaß, während das im FL immer noch zu ertragen ist.
 
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23-10-2007, 23:34
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Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 491
http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hoffe der Link ist erlaubt, ansosnten bitte löschen.

Das ist ein Konverter Tool, bitte damit Hände konvertieren, damits wirds für alle ertragbar. HH so angeben ist zu konfus.
 
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23-10-2007, 23:40
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Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 112
Thx für den Link werd ich mir mal holen, ich finds auch immer anstrengend sowas durchzulesen deshalb auch gleich die Warnung das es länger ist am Anfang .
 
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23-10-2007, 23:46
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Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 829
Hallo,

bitte die Hände mit einem Hand-Converter bearbeiten und im Beispielhand-Forum posten!

Gruß
Scots75

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