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NL5, Gewinne kleine Pots und verliere große mit Monstern - 29-05-2010, 11:04
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Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 209
moin moin...
ich bin mir sicher das ich ein riesen leak habe...denn ich kann mit preflop monsterhänden nicht umgehen...
es ist mir leider nicht gegeben trips oder glücklich geflopte 2pair des gegners zu erkennen und schiebe viel zu oft meinen gesamten stack gegen solche hände rein...

wie könnte ich dies denn verhindern bzw. verluste minimieren...?
ich habe mal ein paar hände rausgesucht die ich mehr oder weniger verdient verloren habe...



PokerStars Game #44637450026: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/26 16:56:47 CET [2010/05/26 10:56:47 ET]
Table 'Achates V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: hardoo ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: Vilco14 ($5.15 in chips)
Seat 3: espresso4 ($12.32 in chips)
Seat 4: pellizoso ($7.45 in chips)
Seat 5: papen1985 ($3.68 in chips)
Seat 6: Immortal3000 ($9.40 in chips)
Seat 7: kerzane ($5.87 in chips)
Seat 8: JohnBandicut ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 9: Dilboy373 ($8.53 in chips)
Vilco14: posts small blind $0.02
espresso4: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [As Ah]
pellizoso: folds
papen1985: calls $0.05
Immortal3000: folds
kerzane: folds
JohnBandicut: folds
Dilboy373: calls $0.05
hardoo: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.20 to $0.25
espresso4: folds
papen1985: calls $0.20
Dilboy373: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Qd 5h Jd]
Vilco14: bets $0.70
papen1985: calls $0.70
Dilboy373: raises $7.58 to $8.28 and is all-in
Vilco14: calls $4.20 and is all-in
papen1985: calls $2.73 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($3.38) returned to Dilboy373
*** TURN *** [Qd 5h Jd] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 5h Jd 7c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilco14: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Dilboy373: shows [Qh Jh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Dilboy373 collected $2.79 from side pot
papen1985: shows [5d 3d] (a pair of Fives)
Dilboy373 collected $10.54 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.03 Main pot $10.54. Side pot $2.79. | Rake $0.70
Board [Qd 5h Jd 7c 6s]
Seat 1: hardoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Vilco14 (small blind) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: espresso4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: pellizoso folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: papen1985 showed [5d 3d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: Immortal3000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kerzane folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JohnBandicut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dilboy373 showed [Qh Jh] and won ($13.33) with two pair, Queens and Jacks



PokerStars Game #42495586149: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/04/11 10:38:53 CET [2010/04/11 4:38:53 ET]
Table 'Amherstia' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SRTS ($11.99 in chips)
Seat 2: Vilco14 ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: catcher70 ($13.79 in chips)
Seat 5: chipiemonsta ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 6: 68548015 ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: SaSqUiDe ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: harlemquin ($11.32 in chips)
catcher70: posts small blind $0.02
chipiemonsta: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Jc Js]
68548015: raises $0.05 to $0.10
SaSqUiDe: folds
harlemquin: folds
SRTS: calls $0.10
Vilco14: raises $0.30 to $0.40
catcher70: folds
chipiemonsta: calls $0.35
68548015: calls $0.30
SRTS: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qd Tc]
chipiemonsta: checks
68548015: checks
SRTS is disconnected
SRTS is connected
SRTS: checks
Vilco14: bets $1.20
chipiemonsta: calls $1.20
68548015: folds
SRTS: calls $1.20
*** TURN *** [Jd Qd Tc] [5h]
chipiemonsta: checks
SRTS: checks
Vilco14: bets $3.40 and is all-in
chipiemonsta: calls $3.40
SRTS: folds
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qd Tc 5h] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chipiemonsta: shows [Kh Ah] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Vilco14: shows [Jc Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
chipiemonsta collected $11.47 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.02 | Rake $0.55
Board [Jd Qd Tc 5h 9s]
Seat 1: SRTS folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Vilco14 (button) showed [Jc Js] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 4: catcher70 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: chipiemonsta (big blind) showed [Kh Ah] and won ($11.47) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: 68548015 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: SaSqUiDe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: harlemquin folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #42643845937: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/04/14 10:46:27 CET [2010/04/14 4:46:27 ET]
Table 'Cannonia' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Shatter777 ($12.66 in chips)
Seat 2: charletess ($3.27 in chips)
Seat 3: xMICROSx ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: scorpiossm ($0.93 in chips)
Seat 5: CptOblivious ($6.34 in chips)
Seat 6: Vilco14 ($5.22 in chips)
Seat 7: Triplerat ($4.02 in chips)
Seat 8: wuusaaaa ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: tallonn88 ($12.29 in chips)
scorpiossm: posts small blind $0.02
CptOblivious: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Jd Jc]
Vilco14: raises $0.15 to $0.20
Triplerat: folds
wuusaaaa: folds
tallonn88: folds
Shatter777: folds
charletess: calls $0.20
xMICROSx: folds
scorpiossm: folds
CptOblivious: raises $0.80 to $1
Vilco14: calls $0.80
charletess: calls $0.80
*** FLOP *** [2h 8h 7s]
CptOblivious: bets $1.55
Vilco14: calls $1.55
charletess: folds
*** TURN *** [2h 8h 7s] [7c]
CptOblivious: bets $3
Vilco14: calls $2.67 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.33) returned to CptOblivious
*** RIVER *** [2h 8h 7s 7c] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CptOblivious: shows [Qs Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Vilco14: shows [Jd Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
CptOblivious collected $10.91 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.46 | Rake $0.55
Board [2h 8h 7s 7c 8s]
Seat 1: Shatter777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: charletess folded on the Flop
Seat 3: xMICROSx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: scorpiossm (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: CptOblivious (big blind) showed [Qs Qc] and won ($10.91) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 6: Vilco14 showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 7: Triplerat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: wuusaaaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tallonn88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #44747998668: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/29 0:00:15 CET [2010/05/28 18:00:15 ET]
Table 'Ganymede III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: KIMO_ca ($5.36 in chips)
Seat 2: evl09 ($2.88 in chips)
Seat 3: gvv05 ($5.02 in chips)
Seat 4: Vilco14 ($5.79 in chips)
Seat 5: enigma1978 ($28.31 in chips)
Seat 7: boozrr ($3.89 in chips)
Seat 8: voly13 ($2.27 in chips)
Seat 9: tamonten888 ($12.58 in chips)
KIMO_ca: posts small blind $0.02
evl09: posts big blind $0.05
IRiverBluff: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Qc Qd]
gvv05: calls $0.05
Vilco14: raises $0.15 to $0.20
enigma1978: calls $0.20
boozrr: folds
voly13: folds
tamonten888: folds
KIMO_ca: folds
evl09: folds
gvv05: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [2s Td 7s]
gvv05: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.47
enigma1978: raises $1.08 to $1.55
gvv05: folds
Vilco14: calls $1.08
*** TURN *** [2s Td 7s] [6h]
Vilco14: checks
enigma1978: bets $2.40
Vilco14: raises $1.64 to $4.04 and is all-in
enigma1978: calls $1.64
*** RIVER *** [2s Td 7s 6h] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilco14: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
enigma1978: shows [7c 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
enigma1978 collected $11.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.85 | Rake $0.55
Board [2s Td 7s 6h 3d]
Seat 1: KIMO_ca (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: evl09 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: gvv05 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Vilco14 showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: enigma1978 showed [7c 7d] and won ($11.30) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: boozrr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: voly13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tamonten888 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)




PokerStars Game #44569635783: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/25 1:15:02 CET [2010/05/24 19:15:02 ET]
Table 'Syrma II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: XOCEANX ($2.43 in chips)
Seat 2: memen1254 ($9.88 in chips)
Seat 3: l ThatVat l ($2.65 in chips)
Seat 5: sensarmy420 ($3.69 in chips)
Seat 6: swat2662ap ($5.67 in chips)
Seat 7: Bukowski63 ($14.42 in chips)
Seat 8: Vilco14 ($5.69 in chips)
Seat 9: mhctpk ($3.86 in chips)
l ThatVat l: posts small blind $0.02
Lukusz: is sitting out
sensarmy420: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Js Jc]
Lukusz leaves the table
swat2662ap: raises $0.15 to $0.20
Bukowski63: folds
Vilco14: calls $0.20
mhctpk: folds
XOCEANX: folds
memen1254: folds
l ThatVat l: folds
sensarmy420: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [9c 7c 4d]
sensarmy420: checks
swat2662ap: bets $0.20
Vilco14: raises $0.30 to $0.50
sensarmy420: folds
swat2662ap: raises $0.85 to $1.35
Vilco14: calls $0.85
*** TURN *** [9c 7c 4d] [3h]
GrandTORINOO joins the table at seat #4
swat2662ap: bets $2.15
Vilco14: raises $1.99 to $4.14 and is all-in
swat2662ap: calls $1.97 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.02) returned to Vilco14
*** RIVER *** [9c 7c 4d 3h] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
swat2662ap: shows [9h 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
Vilco14: mucks hand
swat2662ap collected $11.01 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.56 | Rake $0.55
Board [9c 7c 4d 3h Td]
Seat 1: XOCEANX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: memen1254 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: l ThatVat l (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: sensarmy420 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: swat2662ap showed [9h 9d] and won ($11.01) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: Bukowski63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vilco14 mucked [Js Jc]
Seat 9: mhctpk folded before Flop (didn't bet)




PokerStars Game #44747236178: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/28 23:42:37 CET [2010/05/28 17:42:37 ET]
Table 'Fagnes' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: westytoouk ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: merlingt ($4.78 in chips)
Seat 3: Matthi58 ($4.34 in chips)
Seat 4: LeMan04 ($3.45 in chips)
Seat 5: evl09 ($2.95 in chips)
Seat 6: carrocero 12 ($3.78 in chips)
Seat 8: Vilco14 ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: priest_mk ($4.31 in chips)
priest_mk: posts small blind $0.02
westytoouk: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Kd Kh]
merlingt: folds
Matthi58: folds
LeMan04: folds
evl09: raises $0.15 to $0.20
carrocero 12: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.45 to $0.65
priest_mk: calls $0.63
westytoouk: folds
Matthi58 leaves the table
Cecile13400 joins the table at seat #3
evl09: calls $0.45
*** FLOP *** [Jh 4s 3h]
priest_mk: bets $0.35
evl09: calls $0.35
Vilco14: raises $2.05 to $2.40
priest_mk: calls $2.05
evl09: folds
*** TURN *** [Jh 4s 3h] [8s]
priest_mk: bets $0.40
Vilco14: raises $1.55 to $1.95 and is all-in
priest_mk: calls $0.86 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.69) returned to Vilco14
*** RIVER *** [Jh 4s 3h 8s] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
priest_mk: shows [7h Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Vilco14: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
priest_mk collected $9.22 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.67 | Rake $0.45
Board [Jh 4s 3h 8s Ad]
Seat 1: westytoouk (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: merlingt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Matthi58 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: LeMan04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: evl09 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: carrocero 12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vilco14 (button) showed [Kd Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: priest_mk (small blind) showed [7h Ah] and won ($9.22) with a pair of Aces



PokerStars Game #44683705536: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/27 16:48:27 CET [2010/05/27 10:48:27 ET]
Table 'Musca II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ElliottMitch ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: Poker_Prody ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 3: FERPEMON ($4.19 in chips)
Seat 5: xiaodengxyz ($4.88 in chips)
Seat 7: o_niemand_o ($13.56 in chips)
Seat 8: Vilco14 ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: Lukusz ($5.16 in chips)
Lukusz: posts small blind $0.02
ElliottMitch: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Jd Jc]
Poker_Prody: folds
FERPEMON: folds
xiaodengxyz: folds
o_niemand_o: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Lukusz: calls $0.13
ElliottMitch: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 2h 3s]
Lukusz: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.28
Lukusz: calls $0.28
*** TURN *** [4h 2h 3s] [9c]
FERPEMON leaves the table
Lukusz: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.68
Lukusz: raises $1.72 to $2.40
Vilco14: raises $2.17 to $4.57 and is all-in
Lukusz: calls $2.17
*** RIVER *** [4h 2h 3s 9c] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lukusz: shows [4s 4c] (three of a kind, Fours)
Vilco14: shows [Jd Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
Lukusz collected $9.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.05 | Rake $0.50
Board [4h 2h 3s 9c Qc]
Seat 1: ElliottMitch (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Poker_Prody folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FERPEMON folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: xiaodengxyz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: o_niemand_o folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vilco14 (button) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 9: Lukusz (small blind) showed [4s 4c] and won ($9.55) with three of a kind, Fours



PokerStars Game #44748712469: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/29 0:15:57 CET [2010/05/28 18:15:57 ET]
Table 'Union III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Vilco14 ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 2: KIMO_ca ($8.20 in chips)
Seat 3: RENIELS ($1.81 in chips)
Seat 4: RJN277 ($5.51 in chips)
Seat 5: Cecile13400 ($7.50 in chips)
Seat 6: majpastetom ($4.58 in chips)
Seat 7: maritz433 ($3.93 in chips)
Seat 8: starpowah ($1.95 in chips)
Seat 9: Veri888 ($17.95 in chips)
RENIELS: posts small blind $0.02
RJN277: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Qs Qc]
Cecile13400: raises $0.15 to $0.20
majpastetom: calls $0.20
maritz433: calls $0.20
starpowah: folds
Veri888: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.82 to $1.02
KIMO_ca: folds
RENIELS: folds
RJN277: folds
Cecile13400: folds
majpastetom: folds
maritz433: raises $2.91 to $3.93 and is all-in
Vilco14: calls $2.91
*** FLOP *** [Th Kh 9s]
*** TURN *** [Th Kh 9s] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Th Kh 9s 8s] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maritz433: shows [Ac Kd] (a pair of Kings)
Vilco14: shows [Qs Qc] (a pair of Queens)
maritz433 collected $7.93 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.33 | Rake $0.40
Board [Th Kh 9s 8s 3d]
Seat 1: Vilco14 showed [Qs Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: KIMO_ca (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: RENIELS (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: RJN277 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Cecile13400 folded before Flop
Seat 6: majpastetom folded before Flop
Seat 7: maritz433 showed [Ac Kd] and won ($7.93) with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: starpowah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Veri888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)




PokerStars Game #44606103173: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/25 21:49:22 CET [2010/05/25 15:49:22 ET]
Table 'Theodora III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Nemrid ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 2: MV1964 ($3.47 in chips)
Seat 3: stckbrker ($11.42 in chips)
Seat 4: xan23tus ($12.49 in chips)
Seat 5: Vilco14 ($6.24 in chips)
Seat 6: 7717k ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 7: bakssss86 ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Budilin ($10.85 in chips)
Seat 9: pokamajesty ($3.44 in chips)
MV1964: posts small blind $0.02
stckbrker: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [As Ah]
xan23tus: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.15 to $0.20
7717k: calls $0.20
bakssss86: folds
Budilin: folds
pokamajesty: folds
Nemrid: folds
MV1964: calls $0.18
stckbrker: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 7d 7h]
MV1964: bets $0.10
Vilco14: raises $0.35 to $0.45
7717k: raises $3.29 to $3.74 and is all-in
MV1964: folds
Vilco14: calls $3.29
*** TURN *** [Ks 7d 7h] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 7d 7h Jh] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilco14: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
7717k: shows [7c Qh] (three of a kind, Sevens)
7717k collected $7.83 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.23 | Rake $0.40
Board [Ks 7d 7h Jh 9s]
Seat 1: Nemrid (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MV1964 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: stckbrker (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xan23tus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Vilco14 showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 6: 7717k showed [7c Qh] and won ($7.83) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: bakssss86 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Budilin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pokamajesty folded before Flop (didn't bet)




PokerStars Game #44747615858: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/28 23:50:48 CET [2010/05/28 17:50:48 ET]
Table 'Rana' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: lamphi ($12.55 in chips)
Seat 2: huckys ($3.42 in chips)
Seat 3: Brahipelma65 ($4 in chips)
Seat 4: Winner Zolee ($5.02 in chips)
Seat 5: evl09 ($2.65 in chips)
Seat 7: MikazaaR ($5 in chips)
Seat 8: Wladek_R ($0.21 in chips)
Seat 9: Vilco14 ($5 in chips)
Winner Zolee: posts small blind $0.02
evl09: posts big blind $0.05
ope4atka: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Qd Qh]
MikazaaR: folds
Wladek_R: calls $0.05
Vilco14: raises $0.13 to $0.18
lamphi: folds
huckys: calls $0.18
Brahipelma65: calls $0.18
Winner Zolee: folds
evl09: folds
Wladek_R: calls $0.13
*** FLOP *** [8c 3h Tc]
Wladek_R: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.55
huckys: calls $0.55
Brahipelma65: folds
Wladek_R: calls $0.03 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8c 3h Tc] [5s]
Vilco14: bets $1.22
huckys: calls $1.22
*** RIVER *** [8c 3h Tc 5s] [Kd]
Vilco14: bets $2.50
huckys: calls $1.47 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.03) returned to Vilco14
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilco14: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
huckys: shows [Th 8s] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
huckys collected $6.07 from side pot
Wladek_R: shows [Jh 6h] (high card King)
huckys collected $0.88 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.30 Main pot $0.88. Side pot $6.07. | Rake $0.35
Board [8c 3h Tc 5s Kd]
Seat 1: lamphi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: huckys showed [Th 8s] and won ($6.95) with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 3: Brahipelma65 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Winner Zolee (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: evl09 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MikazaaR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Wladek_R showed [Jh 6h] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: Vilco14 showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens



PokerStars Game #44764366761: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/29 9:28:17 CET [2010/05/29 3:28:17 ET]
Table 'Puck V' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: AA _MARINE3 ($9.77 in chips)
Seat 2: JohnSmith IV ($2.41 in chips)
Seat 3: SexySexyLady ($5.02 in chips)
Seat 4: rubjustel ($3.11 in chips)
Seat 5: brunolenko ($9.61 in chips)
Seat 6: korbotaczi ($8.08 in chips)
Seat 7: Vilco14 ($5 in chips)
Seat 8: danDman85 ($3.38 in chips)
SexySexyLady: posts small blind $0.02
rubjustel: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Ad Ah]
brunolenko: folds
korbotaczi: folds
Vilco14: raises $0.10 to $0.15
danDman85: folds
AA _MARINE3: folds
JohnSmith IV: folds
SexySexyLady: folds
rubjustel: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Js 6d Jc]
rubjustel: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.22
rubjustel: raises $0.22 to $0.44
Vilco14: raises $0.46 to $0.90
rubjustel: raises $2.06 to $2.96 and is all-in
Vilco14: calls $2.06
*** TURN *** [Js 6d Jc] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Js 6d Jc 5s] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rubjustel: shows [Td Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Vilco14: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
rubjustel collected $5.94 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.24 | Rake $0.30
Board [Js 6d Jc 5s 3s]
Seat 1: AA _MARINE3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JohnSmith IV (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SexySexyLady (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: rubjustel (big blind) showed [Td Jh] and won ($5.94) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 5: brunolenko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: korbotaczi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Vilco14 showed [Ad Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 8: danDman85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



für ein paar ratschläge wäre ich euch sehr dankbar...

edit: ich habe die hände bei flop-turn-river durchgejagt...nun hätte ich nur gern die schönen kartenbilder wie die anderen user...um euch und mir die übersichtlichkeit zu erleichtern


NEUER VERSUCH

Geändert von Vilco14 (29-05-2010 um 11:42 Uhr). Grund: traurig darüber das keine kartenbilder angezeigt werden...
 
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29-05-2010, 11:17
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Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 597
Ein Wunder! 6x gegen die gleiche Hand auf dem gleichen Board verloren.

Top-Pair oder Overpairs weglegen zu können ist Kernpompetenz im No-Limit.
 
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29-05-2010, 11:17
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Since: May 2010
Posts: 4.298
Hand 1:

Der riskiert ne riesige Summe fürn verhältnismäßig kleinen Pot, und er muss davon ausgehen, dass du beispielsweise AQ hast.
Er spielt entweder nen Bluff oder hat ne aktuell starke Hand, die er aber schützen muss. Fürn Bluff sind die Voraussetzungen denkbar schlecht: keine Innitiative, Flush und StraightDraws, 3 Leute im Pot.



Das ist meine Meinung als Anfänger. Die ändert sich auch ned dadurch, dass du die Hand 5 mal postest :p



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($5)
Hero (SB) ($5.15)
BB ($12.32)
UTG ($7.45)
UTG+1 ($3.68)
MP1 ($9.40)
MP2 ($5.87)
MP3 ($3.94)
CO ($8.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.25, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.80) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $0.70, UTG+1 calls $0.70, CO raises to $8.28 (All-In), Hero calls $4.20 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $2.73 (All-In)

Turn: ($14.03) (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($14.03) (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $14.03 | Rake: $0.70




EDITH:
Musst im Menü von 'flopturnriver' auf 'IntelliDiscussionBoard' umschalten. Gibt hier nen sticky zum Handkonverter.

Geändert von Alanthera (29-05-2010 um 11:20 Uhr).
 
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29-05-2010, 11:24
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Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 209
ohhhh....verdammt....
das sollten eigentlich verschiedene hände sein...wird nat umgehend geändert....MEIN FEHLER...


nun sind es verschiedene hände (ohne bilder...leider)...

Geändert von Vilco14 (29-05-2010 um 11:48 Uhr).
 
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29-05-2010, 11:48
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Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 209
Zitat:
Zitat von Alanthera Beitrag anzeigen
EDITH:
Musst im Menü von 'flopturnriver' auf 'IntelliDiscussionBoard' umschalten. Gibt hier nen sticky zum Handkonverter.
hmmm......Intelli ist eingestellt...und trotzdem siehts sehr unschön aus...
 
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29-05-2010, 11:55
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Since: May 2010
Posts: 4.298
Das is echt ned schwer.

Komplette einzelne Hand hier ins linke große Feld (input) eingeben, dann im dropdown-Menü auf Intellipoker Discussions Forum umstellen, dann convert hand anclicken und dann einfach rechts bei output alles kopieren.
 
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29-05-2010, 12:00
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Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 209
hmmm....würde sagen genauso hab ich es gemacht...

PokerStars Game #44747998668: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/05/29 0:00:15 CET [2010/05/28 18:00:15 ET]
Table 'Ganymede III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: KIMO_ca ($5.36 in chips)
Seat 2: evl09 ($2.88 in chips)
Seat 3: gvv05 ($5.02 in chips)
Seat 4: Vilco14 ($5.79 in chips)
Seat 5: enigma1978 ($28.31 in chips)
Seat 7: boozrr ($3.89 in chips)
Seat 8: voly13 ($2.27 in chips)
Seat 9: tamonten888 ($12.58 in chips)
KIMO_ca: posts small blind $0.02
evl09: posts big blind $0.05
IRiverBluff: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vilco14 [Qc Qd]
gvv05: calls $0.05
Vilco14: raises $0.15 to $0.20
enigma1978: calls $0.20
boozrr: folds
voly13: folds
tamonten888: folds
KIMO_ca: folds
evl09: folds
gvv05: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [2s Td 7s]
gvv05: checks
Vilco14: bets $0.47
enigma1978: raises $1.08 to $1.55
gvv05: folds
Vilco14: calls $1.08
*** TURN *** [2s Td 7s] [6h]
Vilco14: checks
enigma1978: bets $2.40
Vilco14: raises $1.64 to $4.04 and is all-in
enigma1978: calls $1.64
*** RIVER *** [2s Td 7s 6h] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilco14: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
enigma1978: shows [7c 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
enigma1978 collected $11.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.85 | Rake $0.55
Board [2s Td 7s 6h 3d]
Seat 1: KIMO_ca (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: evl09 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: gvv05 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Vilco14 showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: enigma1978 showed [7c 7d] and won ($11.30) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: boozrr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: voly13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tamonten888 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


VERDAMMT!!!!
 
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29-05-2010, 12:00
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Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 5.697
1.) http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

diesen Handconverter nutzen

2.) 1 Hand je Thread


zur AA Hand von oben:

1.) Raise pre auf 30 - 35 Cent

2.) Cbet gut auch in der Höhe

3.) Jetzt gibt es leider kein: Musst du folden / Musst du callen

Gib dem gegner ne Range und calle oder folde.
Hast du reads? - das er Top Pair überspielt oder schonmal nen schlechten draw overshovt etc.
War er eher passiv oder aher aggresiv...

Im Zweifel guck ich mir immer das Board an und die Pod Odds.
Die Pod Odds sind nicht sooo gut, aber du hast Dead Money vom caller deiner CBet im Pott...

Was soll er hier denn haben, was dich schlägt? QJ / 55 .
Ist er so loose, dass er mit Q5 und J5 hier two pair haben kann?

Du brauchst 40% Equity, was recht viel ist, sofern er hier nichtmal ein TPair overlayd...
Hab ich keine Reads, tendiere ich hier eher zum fold...


Gegen die Range:
JJ,55,QJs,QJo,J5s,Q5s,JdAd,TdAd,9dAd,KsTc,KsTd,KsT h,KcTd,KcTh,KdTh,TdKd,JdKd

hast du 33 %

hier shovt er recht gute Draws und überspielt TPair eben nicht.


Speilt er pre loose und postflop extrem Aggro udn shovt viele draws und überspielt TPait Hände:

JJ,55,QJs,QJo,J5s,Q5s,97s,AQs,KQs,42s,JdAd,TdAd,9d Ad,KsTc,KsTd,KsTh,KcTd,KcTh,KdTh,TdKd,JdKd,9dKd,8d Kd,7dKd,6dKd,8dAd,7dAd,6dAd,5dAd,5dKd,8d9d,6d9d,5d 9d,4d9d,7d8d,5d6d,5d7d,9dTd,KhQs,KhQc,KhQd,AcQs,Ad Qs,AhQs,AdQc,AhQc,AhQd,4dAd,3dAd,2dAd,6d7d

hier hast du 47%


Ich würde aus dem einfachen Grunde folden, das die Pod Odds zu schlecht sind und du keine Reads angibst....


Wenn du hier preflop mehr 3bettest 35 Cent und dann 1$ Cbettest, dann bekommst du bei gleichem Ablauf hier Pod Oddsw von 2:1 und brauchst nur 33% Equity. Und dann hast du hier m.E. nach nen recht klareren call
 
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29-05-2010, 12:01
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Since: Sep 2007
Posts: 5.697
is doch nicht so schwer:

du musst noch Select Output klicken udn dann auch mit STRG + C in den Zwischenspeicher laden

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($5.36)
BB ($2.88)
UTG ($5.02)
Hero (UTG+1) ($5.79)
MP1 ($28.31)
MP2 ($3.89)
CO ($2.27)
Button ($12.58)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with ,
UTG calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.67) , , (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.47, MP1 raises to $1.55, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.08

Turn: ($3.77) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $2.40, Hero raises to $4.04 (All-In), MP1 calls $1.64

River: ($11.85) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.85 | Rake: $0.55

hier bekommst du von einem SPieler, der dich pre overcallt ein Raise am FLop.
Wenn du nichts weißt, folde einfach den Flop.
Die Tatsache, dass noch jemand NACH MP dran ist klässt mich zweifeln, dass er hier blufft...
Und ob er hier AT am FLop raist ist schwer zu sagen, wäre aber overplayt IMO...

Geändert von crowsen (29-05-2010 um 12:07 Uhr).
 
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29-05-2010, 12:03
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Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 209
DANKE crowsen...

das sind ja ne menge informationen die ich erst einmal verarbeiten muß...
ich werde nat versuchen in zukunft bessere posts zu schreiben und die angaben/ stats besser zu formulieren...